I found out about the Dallas store in the Gardener Exchange forum (Where to get organic products in the DFW area) thanks to a recent post; you may be able to find a store that sells it cheaper in your area too!
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| Author: | charharris [ Mon May 17, 2010 9:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: St Augustine: Dormancy period and Dealing with Brown Patch |
Onward and Upward wrote: EAnton, $18.99 for a bag of organic corn meal is what I found too (in Dallas)! __________ That is a good price. I have two places in my area. Calloways-24.95 (Soil Mender) Lewisville Feedstore-can't remember but it was more than Calloways (and that surprised me) |
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| Author: | Onward and Upward [ Mon May 17, 2010 5:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: St Augustine: Dormancy period and Dealing with Brown Patch |
I found out about the Dallas store in the Gardener Exchange forum (Where to get organic products in the DFW area) thanks to a recent post; you may be able to find a store that sells it cheaper in your area too!
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| Author: | charharris [ Tue May 18, 2010 8:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: St Augustine: Dormancy period and Dealing with Brown Patch |
Onward and Upward wrote: I found out about the Dallas store in the Gardener Exchange forum (Where to get organic products in the DFW area) thanks to a recent post; you may be able to find a store that sells it cheaper in your area too! __________ Thank you! I am on my way to the Garden Exchange! |
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| Author: | Onward and Upward [ Tue May 18, 2010 3:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: St Augustine: Dormancy period and Dealing with Brown Patch |
Glad I could help! Hope you find a store!
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| Author: | dfwgo2guy [ Wed May 19, 2010 6:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: St Augustine: Dormancy period and Dealing with Brown Patch |
I've been spreading Corn meal on my yard to help fight brown patch. I've also started putting down peat moss in hopes of helping the st. augustine spread. My question now is should i put peat moss in the area where I have brown patch? This area is close to the house and i'm thinking about adding top soil to try and raise this area of the yard thinking by raising it, it may help prevent brown patch since this part of yard is a little lower than the rest of yard.... Thanks Robert |
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| Author: | charharris [ Wed May 19, 2010 9:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: St Augustine: Dormancy period and Dealing with Brown Patch |
dfwgo2guy wrote: I've been spreading Corn meal on my yard to help fight brown patch. I've also started putting down peat moss in hopes of helping the st. augustine spread. My question now is should i put peat moss in the area where I have brown patch? This area is close to the house and i'm thinking about adding top soil to try and raise this area of the yard thinking by raising it, it may help prevent brown patch since this part of yard is a little lower than the rest of yard.... Thanks Robert _____________ Hi Robert, I have gone back and read many discussions about peat moss on this forum. I am sure I will be in the minority for saying I really like peat. Last year I used peat moss as a top dressing to my yard. I had been dealing with brown patch for a few years. I heard about peat moss helping with take-all patch on the Neil Sperry website. I also had some low spots in my yard. To make a long story short, I did end up replacing most of my yard. I am not sorry I used the peat moss. It did help to soften my very hard dirt. Maybe if we had not had so much snow this past winter more of my grass would have survived. You might want to check out lava sand, texas greensand, shale and composts for filling in low spots. I spread CM once a month as a preventative for fungus on SA. I still keep a big bag of peat moss handy. I had a few sod pieces that needed a little 'help.' I spread a thin layer of peat and it was not long before it looked real good. Good luck! |
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| Author: | dfwgo2guy [ Wed May 19, 2010 9:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: St Augustine: Dormancy period and Dealing with Brown Patch |
thank you, i appreciate the advice.. 
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| Author: | charharris [ Thu May 20, 2010 7:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: St Augustine: Dormancy period and Dealing with Brown Patch |
dfwgo2guy wrote: thank you, i appreciate the advice.. ____________ My pleasure! |
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| Author: | EAnton781 [ Thu May 20, 2010 10:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: St Augustine: Dormancy period and Dealing with Brown Patch |
From what I've read, peat moss is not recommended by Howard as it washes away more often than it supplements the soil. I believe the only options for leveling are adding sand products (preferably the beneficial sands) a little at a time until the desired fill is accomplished or by aerating and raking the cores into the low areas. However aeration shouldn't be done for leveling purposes only. Aeration should only be done for other specific reasons and the leveling is a secondary benefit. The good news is that brown patch is a good reason to aerate. You use the holes to get corn meal (fungus fighter), lava & green sand (for draining & minerals), and even compost top dressing (for microbes) directly into the root level of the turf. This is an aggressive approach though. Hopefully, applying corn meal & organic fertilizer regularly, adjusting watering and mowing practices should be enough to combat the problem. |
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| Author: | charharris [ Thu May 20, 2010 11:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: St Augustine: Dormancy period and Dealing with Brown Patch |
[quote="EAnton781"]From what I've read, peat moss is not recommended by Howard as it washes away more often than it supplements the soil. ___________________ Actually it does not wash away. It sinks nicely into the soil. Besides softening the soil, it help with water retention. I think what Howard and others did not like about peat moss was that it had no nutritional value. I should probably go back and read the 'discussion' BUT it worked for me.
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| Author: | user_48634 [ Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: St Augustine: Dormancy period and Dealing with Brown Patch |
Water retention is the reason mulches like peat moss and compost work to soften the soil. Peat moss has ecological issues. There are those who believe it comes from a non-renewable source and those to don't. Compost, on the other hand, has no such argument and has many other great features that push me that direction. If you want a truly great product and not hassle from anyone, use compost where you were thinking to use peat moss. As Eanton said, you cannot level anything with organic materials. You need minerals like sand or topsoil. Organic materials will all be decomposed in a year leaving you with no volume. I like sand because it never clods up on you. |
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| Author: | dfwgo2guy [ Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: St Augustine: Dormancy period and Dealing with Brown Patch |
Hello, I just wanted to Thank everyone for you help.. My St. Augustine grass is growing except for where the brown patch is. I've attached a photo. I've been using corn meal monthly. I was wondering if I could put some Lava Sand over it too one, help raise it and two hopefully the St. Augustine will spread? If I can you lava sand or texas greensand where can I purchase it? I live in the Desoto Texas area... Thanks |
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| Author: | EAnton781 [ Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: St Augustine: Dormancy period and Dealing with Brown Patch |
Most nurseries will carry it. I've found this place is the best. http://soilbuildingsystems.com |
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| Author: | dfwgo2guy [ Fri Jun 25, 2010 6:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: St Augustine: Dormancy period and Dealing with Brown Patch |
Thank You... |
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| Author: | OrgGal [ Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: St Augustine: Dormancy period and Dealing with Brown Patch |
charharris wrote: Onward and Upward wrote: EAnton, $18.99 for a bag of organic corn meal is what I found too (in Dallas)! __________ That is a good price. I have two places in my area. Calloways-24.95 (Soil Mender) Lewisville Feedstore-can't remember but it was more than Calloways (and that surprised me) Char, Drive a little north to Argyle Feed Store. They have 40 lb. bags of Corn Meal for $18.50. Drive N on 2499 then W on 407 just past Lantana and Bartonville area. Argyle Feed Store will be on the W side of 407 next to the Exxon gas station at the stop light intersection of FM 407 and 1830. When ever they are out, I just drive further N on 1830 to D&L Farm & Home on the south side of Denton. They are between 1830 & 377 with their main entrance immediately off of 377. This spring their price was $18.99 for 40 lbs. Hope this helps you. I 'm always looking for the best deal, so if anyone has a better price and source please share. I don't have to buy in 40 lb increments...can buy bulk. Thanks! |
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