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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 11:55 am 
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Does anyone have any experience/comments with this product? Thanks, GasMan.

https://ssl.cgicafe.com/clients/natures ... erify.html


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 5:21 pm 
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Just guessing - Hydrogen Peroxide? I'm trying to find out for sure.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 5:44 pm 
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CK MSDS shown below. It is a surfactant & contains ethyl and isopropyl alcohols. Anybody have an opinion on this stuff?

MATERIAL SAFETY DATA SHEET

MANUFACTURER
Nature’s Lawn, Inc 52 Sonwil Drive, Cheektowaga, NY 14225

EMERGENCY INFORMATION
(716) 681-7793
SECTION I - PRODUCT IDENTIFICATION
DATE PREPARED: May 01, 1994
PRODUCT NAME: Aerify
GENERAL/GENERIC ID: ANIONIC SURFACTANT BLEND / Superb Soil Conditioner
DOT SHIPPING CLASS: 70
HAZARD CLASSIFICATION: Health-1, Fire-3, Reactivity-0
HAZARD CLASSIFICATION KEY: 0-least, 1-slight, 2-moderate, 3-high, 4-extreme

SECTION II -HAZARDOUS INGREDIENTS
COMPONENT CAS NUMBER PERCENT ACGIH
TLV EXPOSURE
OSHA - PEL
ETHYL ALCOHOL (DENATURED)

ISOPROPYL ALCOHOL 64-17-5


67-63-0 >10%


>10% 1000


500(STEL) 1000


400
(*) INDICATES HAZARDOUS INGREDIENTS WHICH ARE TOXIC CHEMICALS SUBJECT TO THE REPORTING REQUIREMENTS OF SECTION 313 OF THE EMERGENCY PLANNING AND COMMUNITY RIGHT-TO-KNOW ACT OF 1986 AND OF 40 CFR 372. THE CHEMICAL NAME, CAS# AND PERCENT BY WEIGHT INFORMATION MUST BE INCLUDED IN ALL MSDS COPIED AND DISTRIBUTED FOR THIS MATERIAL.

SECTION III - PHYSICAL/CHEMICAL CHARACTERISTICS
BOILING POINT (F): 180 SPECIFIC GRAVITY: 1.006
VAPOR PRESSURE (mm Hg): N/E VAPOR DENSITY (air=1): N/E
SOLUBILITY (in water): 100% EVAPORATION RATE: N/E
pH OF CONCENTRATE: 7.0 (1% SOL)
APPEARANCE AND ODOR: PALE AMBER LIQUID, ALCOHOL ODOR

SECTION IV - FIRE & EXPLOSION HAZARD DATA
FLASH POINT (F): 90
FLAMMABLE LIMITS: N/A
LEL: NOT DETERMINED
VEL: NOT DETERMINED
EXTINGUISHING MEDIA: DRY CHEMICAL, ALCOHOL-RESISTANT FOAM, OR WATER SPRAY/FOG
SPECIAL FIRE FIGHTING PROCEDURES: SELF CONTAINED POSITIVE PRESSURE BREATHING APPARATUS
UNUSUAL FIRE & EXPLOSION HAZARDS: None

SECTION V - REACTIVITY DATA
STABILITY: Product is stable.
CONDITIONS TO AVOID: Heat, sparks, open flame
MATERIALS TO AVOID: Strong Acids or Alkali and strong Oxidizers.
HAZARDOUS DECOMPOSITION OR BYPRODUCTS: Sulfur dioxide, hydrogen sulfide, nitrous oxides & ammoniacal vapors
HAZARDOUS POLYMERIZATION: Will not occur
CONDITIONS TO AVOID: None




SECTION VI - HEALTH HAZARD DATA
ROUTE(S) OF ENTRY:
INHILATION: yes SKIN: yes INGESTION: UNLIKELY

HEALTH HAZARDS (ACUTE & CHRONIC):
ACUTE: Vapors and mist irritate nose and throat. Inhalation of high conentrations may cause headaches, vomiting and coma. Prolonged exposure may cause unconsciousness or death. Liquid and mists can severely irritate or damage eyes and cause corneal burns. prolonged or repeated skin contact may cause irritation and dermatitis. Swallowing large quantities causes headaches, nausea, vomiting, stomach cramps and diarrhea, and can cause unconsciousness or death.
CHRONIC: Prolong or repeated exposure to high concentrations can produce severe or fatal central nervous system depression.
CARCINOGENICITY:
IARC MONOGRAPHS: NO OSHA REGULATED: NO NTP: NO
SIGNS AND SYMPTOMS OF EXPOSURE: Eye and skin irritation, headache, nausea, and vomiting. Prolonged or repeated exposure may cause unconsciousness or death.
MEDICAL CONDITIONS GENERALLY AGGRAVATED BY EXPOSURE: Persons with pre-existing skin disorders, eye problems, or impaired respiratory function may be more susceptible to the effects of this substance.

***EMERGENCY AND FIRST AID PROCEDURES***
INGESTION:DO NOT INDUCE VOMITING, CONTACT A PHYSICIAN OR POISON CONTROL CENTER IMMEDIATELY. OFFER SMALL AMOUNTS OF WATER OR MILK.
EYE CONTACT:FLUSH WITH WATER FOR 15 MINUTES. GET MEDICAL ATTENTION IF IRRITATION PERSISTS.
SKIN CONTACT:FLUSH WITH WATER FOR 15 MINUTES. GET MEDICAL ATTENTION IF IRRITATION PERSISTS. INHALATION: REMOVE VICTIM TO FRESH AIR, ADMINISTER OXYGEN IF BREATHING IS DIFFICULT. APPLY ARTIFICIAL RESPIRATION IF VICTIM IS NOT BREATHING. GET IMMEDIATE MEDICAL ATTENTION.
SECTION VII - PRECAUTIONS FOR SAFE HANDLING AND USE
SPILL STEPS: Remove all sources of ignition. Contain spill by diking with absorbent material. Recover for reuse or absorb small spills on absorbent material and dispose of in approved waste disposal containers.
WASTE DISPOSAL METHOD: Dispose of in accordance with local, state and federal regulations.
STORAGE & HANDLING: Store in a cool dry area away from heat, sparks, open flames or other sources of ignition. Keep container closed when not in use. Do not cut or weld empty container as explostion will result. Keep out of reach of children.
SECTION VIII - CONTROL MEASURES
RESPIRATORY PROTECTION: If mist or dust conditions should be present use respirator approved by NIOSH.
VENTILATION: Adequate ventilation required to maintain fresh air flow.
LOCAL EXHAUST: Adequate
EYES AND FACE: Goggles or face shield
HANDS, ARMS AND BODY: Adequate clothing should be worn to prevent skin contact.
WORK/HYGIENIC PRACTICES: Wash all clothing before wearing. Wash all exposed skin surfaces with soap and water after using this product.
SPECIAL CLOTHING AND EQUIPMENT: Eye bath, safety shower and oxygen mask.
WARRANTY
Neither this data sheet nor any statement contained herein grants or extends any license, expressed or implied, in connection with patents issued or pending which may be the property of the manufacturer or others. The information in this data sheet has been assembled by the manufacturer based on its own studies and on the work of others. The manufacturer makes no warranties, expressed or implied, as to the accuracy, completeness, or adequacy of the information contained herein. The manufacturer shall not be liable (regardless of fault) to the Vendee, the Vendee's employees, or anyone for any direct, special or consequential damages arising out of or in connection with the accuracy, completeness, adequacy, or furnishing of such information.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 9:59 pm 
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Somewhere I found the active ingredient in Aerify is one of the two materials: sodium laureth sulfate or ammonium laureth sulfate. I think it was the second one but I can't find it again. In any case, this stuff is basically diluted hair shampoo in a much more expensive bottle.

So is this bad? You betcha! These kinds of soaps are non selective poisons for insects. I don't like anything non selective unless I can really control the application. I'm hoping KHWOZ will correct any errors I make regarding soaps, but here's what I've done and the results. Back in about 1993 I saw my first Jerry Baker talk-a-thon on PBS. He sounded pretty good so I tried one of his tonics to kill the army of pill bugs I had. I sprayed a cup of Dawn liquid dish soap on my 3,000 square feet out front along with probably beer, soda, and ammonia. The result was that the next day I had an army of dead pill bugs everywhere. I had no idea I had that many. I was pretty proud of that as I didn't see another pill bug for probably 5 years. Then the next time JB was on TV I listened again. He pretty much admitted that the soap was a non selective killer. Well, if the soap kills insects non selectively, what must it do to the microbes? I'm asking here because I don't know. I do have a strong sense, though, that if something kills higher order beasts, that the lower order beasts rarely escape unharmed.

Another reason I don't like surfactants for soil softeners is that they will soften the bacterial glues that bond mineral particles together.

If you have a good watering program (deep and infrequent), you won't need a liquid or mechanical aeration program. The soil will be soft all by itself. I believe being on an organic program helps but I really don't have any hard evidence or even experience. Watering seems to be what the experience shows to have the only affect on soil softness.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 7:20 pm 
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Thanks, I ran across this while looking for a large aerator for my lawn. I have 5 acres of lawn. Most spike aerators are 36-48"; I need one a whole lot bigger than that, one I can pull behind my tractor. I saw this liquid aeration, figured it must be too good to be true. I am also having trouble finding a bulk source of dry or liquid molasses, agricultural cornmeal, etc for such a large yard. Any avice appreciated.


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Sounds like a real good product for a smoker. :lol: It might make the large job easier if it weren't for all that pesky vomiting and diarreah.

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I firmly believe that perfect soil oxegenation can be maintained by proper watering and nothing else - no mechanical fertilizers, no chemicals, and no compost or organic fertilizer. If you will water deeply and infrequently, it doesn't matter what fertilizer you use, your soil will grow deep roots that lift the soil and fluff it up.

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