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 Post subject: 20% vinegar question
PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 6:23 am 
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I'm about to go to war on the vines and am hoping the vinegar mix will do the trick. (in addition to the mystery vine, I've just discovered that the poison ivy that I thought I eradicated last year is back. Wugh.)

However, since I've seen so many warnings about how dangerous it can be (I really, really, really do NOT want to go blind! :shock: ), I'm concerned about using it and then letting my 2 yr old run about in the yard. How long do I need to wait after application before he can play out there?

Also, noticed that I can't store it in a sprayer with metal parts...Is one of those quart squirt bottles OK? (I'm a cheapskate and hate the thought of dumping any I don't use....)

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Yes, that Poison Ivy is tenacious. I have a hardy stand under our Red Oak which I think I eliminate each year, only to see it back the very next. :x The same holds true with Virginia Creeper and False Onion/Garlic. I keep spraying and hoping :lol:

I have had 20% vinegar spray solution blow/drift on me each and every year. I haven't been "burned" yet (knocking on wood). I don't intentionally let this happen, but it does. Protect your eyes with glasses or sunglasses. I wouldn't let my 2 year old (if I had one that young :) ) "help" me, but as soon as the solution has dried, I would feel comfortable letting him/her into the yard.

I use the plastic squirt bottles all the time when spot spraying (use a plastic pump sprayer when spraying larger areas). Vinegar, especially the 20% variety is highly corrosive, so after spraying, cycle some tap water through whichever sprayer you use.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 12:43 pm 
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The danger comes with handling the 20%. Wear safety glasses and latex/vinyl gloves. After you spray it, the yard will be safe to be in. It is OK to store in plastic containers (keep away from kids). Regarding the poison ivy, you will have to reapply numerous times preferably to new growth. Keep cutting it & spraying as it grows. To save money & reduce your worries, buy 10% vinegar.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 4:54 pm 
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Thanks - was hoping that once it dried, the kiddo would be good to go.

All Lowe's had was the 20% and since Mom was there and buying....well, that's what we got :lol

I am now armed with the vinegar, orange oil and garlic tea. Pests & weeds, WATCH OUT! :lol


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AMG and others
Please respond back with the results of repeated sprayings of vinegar on poison ivy.
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Tony


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 Post subject: vinegar solution
PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 11:36 am 
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what is the vinegar solution? And will spraying vinegar on grass kill it?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 2:05 pm 
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majekacres,

http://www.dirtdoctor.com/view_question.php?id=134

This is from the Information Center area of the DirtDoctor's homepage. Do yourself a favor and read through his site. Many of your questions will be answered there.

Note: As mentioned on this page, HG is now recommending 10% vs 20%. I'm still using 20% because that is what I find more often. I may try adding some water on the less tenacious weeds. When I am spot spraying, I normally use a 32 oz. spray bottle and use the same amounts of both orange oil (1 oz) and soap (1 tsp).

Tony M, I've been using the vinegar spray on the poison ivy at my current location for 10 years. Is that a long enough study? :lol: It is no magic bullet. I have used this in conjunction with covering the plant with coffee cans, and digging up the dried and shriveled plant remains. I'm sure the neighbors talk and laugh amongst themselves. As I mentioned in my earlier post, three plants have proven themselves impervious to my spray efforts... Poison Ivy, Virginia Creeper, and False Onion/Garlic. All three have presented themselves to me (with vigor) again this season. :x

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Well, I'm dissappointed to hear others' lack of success with the vinegar with respect to the poison ivy :(

Last year, pre-organic enlightenment, I used Brush-B-Gone on it and it certainly *looked* dead. I was amazed to see it come back this year. It's a *huge* vine that goes up in the tree - all the leaves on the vine up the trunk "died" last year, so you can imagine my astonishment when I saw it leafing out again. I've been very hesitant to chop it and yank it down - I got a pretty good dose of the stuff last year before I realized what it was. :evil:

Of course, it's been so windy today & forecast for tomorrow is rain - I don't know when I'm going to get to get out and kill stuff LOL


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AMG,

You can take some solace in the fact that you are not missing out on a control with the Brush-B-Gone :)

I'm disappointed in the lack of success myself, but what can you do?

Spray and pull, maybe you can win the battle and then maybe you won't.

There are other weeds and grasses that you can take care of easily with the spray, so all is not loss.

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Frankly, I'm afraid to be yanking up this poison ivy. When I was clearing brush away from the side of the house and around the fence last year, I didn't realize that was in all this stuff and I managed to get it all over my arms. It was NOT pretty and it took weeks to heal.

I'm praying for no rain on Sat, as it's looking like that's the only time I'm going to get to do the dangerous spraying this week.


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A method to try, and one I've used myself...

Wearing whatever protective clothing you feel necessary (ie. long sleeved shirt) and a pair of gloves, stick your hands in a plastic grocery bag. After the removal, turn the bag inside out with the plant inside. Tie off the bag and discard. You will rarely come in contact with the plant.

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